#36 - October 3, 2014 - Intersection of swing & BDSM Are you a Swinger, or a BDSM player? Maybe you are one but not both. There is a trend seeing BDSM players going to Swing clubs and vice versa. What are the expectations? What are the rules? Join our hosts as Shiva's Vessel and Lord Byron join the conversation to talk about what works and what doesn't.